Privacy: You don't know what you don't know

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Jan 10 00:08

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#758

It's terrifying to not know what you don't know.

A long time ago I had a pin on my phone and simply assumed that it would be impossible to break into it because the device wipes itself after 10 incorrect tries.

Then I assumed biometric data was more complex and thereby more secure.

Then I assumed all I had to do was lock my device and it wouldn't be possible to break into it without knowing or bruteforcing the password.

I didn't know at the time how insecure WiFi truly was and how easy it is to intercept the traffic.

I was under the impression that Signal's data was encrypted on my device and not stored in plain text.

I assumed a VPN was entirely sufficient to prevent a correlation between my online activity and identity.

I assumed the more security extensions I installed, the better my overall security.

I thought Tor was untraceable — especially due to all the claims of anonymity.

Of course, in reality all of the above is false. Any of the aforementioned technologies aren't anywhere as secure, private, and anonymous as you may think they are. The further down the rabbit hole you go, the more you realize just how little control and security you truly have.

Even I was once retarded.

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#765

To be enlightened, one must be a fool. Wait, what do you mean Signal store the data on plain text?

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#770

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It caused a lot of controversy back in 2024: https://cryptographycaffe.sandboxaq.com/posts/protecting-signal-desktop-keys/

https://xcancel.com/naomibrockwell/status/1809291643838951716

https://mastodon.world/@Mer__edith/112756436049179443

At this point I don't use Signal all that much except for some irl friends, while I use alternative software for all other communication, which includes Matrix, XMPP, and SimpleX. However, I have not been a fan of SimpleX due to the glitchy UI among many other reasons, such as a distinct lack in moderation features, poor discoverability, the direction of the project, and the fact the org behind SimpleX receives VC funding. At this stage, Matrix still has the best feature set for running communities while XMPP still solves core problems which other messaging applications have failed to solve. We have far too many messengers and yet most of them are unsuitable for my use case. I don't so much believe in P2P as much as I believe in federation being the future in many ways. You have too many developers trying to do everything themselves, put a little spin on Tor, or come up with their own protocols when they could just work with the technologies that already exist; and this year we'll see new messengers pop up... and the next year... and the next year.

Resources would be far better spent building a new native client for XMPP followed by a server platform equivalent to ActivityPub's Mitra.

Anyway, just going off on a tangent.

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Jan 12 10:38

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Getting people on Signal is hard enough and now they have this vulnerability that they still won't fix? But it still a fact it is suitable for normal people usage while protecting their privacy

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Jan 13 18:12

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This is one of the reasons I always roll my eyes when privacy enthusiasts talk about "threat models". You should always operate under as high a threat model as you can.
yuzuki You should look into using Molly. You can encrypt the db at rest unlike Signal.

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